Comments on: Hope Is a Gritty Thing http://www.peacexpeace.org/2009/12/hope-is-a-gritty-thing/ Raise Women's Voices, Build Cultures of Peace Wed, 01 Feb 2012 02:07:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mares Hirchert http://www.peacexpeace.org/2009/12/hope-is-a-gritty-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Mares Hirchert Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:35:47 +0000 http://www.peacexpeace.org/Peace_X_Peace_Blogs/?p=1485#comment-452 My friend, Yusif Barakat, was one of only 90 Internationals let in to march with the Palestiniansinside Gaza. Pres. Mubarak's wife Suzanne got the 90 in thru the Red Crescent Org. The other 1300 Internationals were demonstrating in Cairo and outside the Erez border and many other places. The reports of the march and how the border was closed are now coming out in some of the western media. Yusif will be back around Jan 20th. In the meantime I was able to keep up with Yusif and the other 5 members of the MI Peace Team thru their blog:http://mptingaza.blogspot.com. After what the Israeli Gov't did last Dec/Jan to the people of Gaza and the squashing of the Goldstone Report by the US many Imternationals that visited in Feb-May and saw the destruction planned this march to let the Palestinians there know that the world had not forgotten them. Walling in 1.5 million people is inhumane and killing 326 Palestinian children in 22 days and accepting it as "collateral damage" is subhuman. The Jewish Peace Groups marched as well to say no to the siege of Gaza and to start talking with Hamas. The BDS movement gained strength especially when the Internationals were not let in to do a peaceful march. Americans won't tolerate giving money to Israel for it to violate International Law and common decency. I don't think the Internationals are happy with Egypt or the US which is secretly helping to build another wall beneath the ground to stop the smuggling thru the tunnels. I am surprised that PeaceXPeace did not hear of the Gaza Freedom March from the Israeli/Palestinian women that were interviewed in 60 Voices. Is there a technical way for me to click something to get an e-mail to let me know that there was a comment on my comment? I would have responded a lot sooner. My friend, Yusif Barakat, was one of only 90 Internationals let in to march with the Palestiniansinside Gaza. Pres. Mubarak’s wife Suzanne got the 90 in thru the Red Crescent Org. The other 1300 Internationals were demonstrating in Cairo and outside the Erez border and many other places. The reports of the march and how the border was closed are now coming out in some of the western media. Yusif will be back around Jan 20th. In the meantime I was able to keep up with Yusif and the other 5 members of the MI Peace Team thru their blog:http://mptingaza.blogspot.com.

After what the Israeli Gov’t did last Dec/Jan to the people of Gaza and the squashing of the Goldstone Report by the US many Imternationals that visited in Feb-May and saw the destruction planned this march to let the Palestinians there know that the world had not forgotten them. Walling in 1.5 million people is inhumane and killing 326 Palestinian children in 22 days and accepting it as “collateral damage” is subhuman. The Jewish Peace Groups marched as well to say no to the siege of Gaza and to start talking with Hamas. The BDS movement gained strength especially when the Internationals were not let in to do a peaceful march. Americans won’t tolerate giving money to Israel for it to violate International Law and common decency.
I don’t think the Internationals are happy with Egypt or the US which is secretly helping to build another wall beneath the ground to stop the smuggling thru the tunnels. I am surprised that PeaceXPeace did not hear of the Gaza Freedom March from the Israeli/Palestinian women that were interviewed in 60 Voices.

Is there a technical way for me to click something to get an e-mail to let me know that there was a comment on my comment? I would have responded a lot sooner.

]]> By: Ruth Anthony-Gardner http://www.peacexpeace.org/2009/12/hope-is-a-gritty-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-284 Ruth Anthony-Gardner Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:19:57 +0000 http://www.peacexpeace.org/Peace_X_Peace_Blogs/?p=1485#comment-284 <a href="" title="Peace & Global Climate Destabilization" rel="nofollow"> A paradigm shift looms, in the Anthropogenic Era, when we can't untangle hope for world peace from Global Climate Destabilization. Human beings evolved in limited ecosystems. Instincts and anatomy which made us fit, in the Darwinian sense, are inadequate to manage an entire planet. Failures such as the Copenhagen Accord will continue until we face our design limitations. Like an alcoholic who can't begin to control his addiction, humanity won't begin to cope with the limitations inherent in our evolved design till we admit that planetary management is a challenge with which we're not equipped to cope. Only then can we reinvent ourselves, casting out present cherished views of privacy and faith. Overproduction, for example, has been controlled by the Chinese at the cost of invasion of sexual privacy and forced abortions. Imagine similar privacy "invasions" that coerce people to resolve conflicts without war, and to negotiate universal per person carbon footprint allowances (instead of rich countries having rights to more per person carbon pollution) will be necessary. We'll have real hope for peace and for sustainability only when we're ready to admit the need for such coercion just to survive. Some people foresee a Singularity when everyone is more deeply integrated with our information technology. My vision for a Singularity is grim, but ultimately as transformative. We'll need universal information technology to manage coordinated effort and our negotiations of conflict. Can we rise to the challenge of reinventing ourselves before Earth becomes uninhabitable?

A paradigm shift looms, in the Anthropogenic Era, when we can’t untangle hope for world peace from Global Climate Destabilization. Human beings evolved in limited ecosystems. Instincts and anatomy which made us fit, in the Darwinian sense, are inadequate to manage an entire planet. Failures such as the Copenhagen Accord will continue until we face our design limitations.

Like an alcoholic who can’t begin to control his addiction, humanity won’t begin to cope with the limitations inherent in our evolved design till we admit that planetary management is a challenge with which we’re not equipped to cope. Only then can we reinvent ourselves, casting out present cherished views of privacy and faith.

Overproduction, for example, has been controlled by the Chinese at the cost of invasion of sexual privacy and forced abortions. Imagine similar privacy “invasions” that coerce people to resolve conflicts without war, and to negotiate universal per person carbon footprint allowances (instead of rich countries having rights to more per person carbon pollution) will be necessary. We’ll have real hope for peace and for sustainability only when we’re ready to admit the need for such coercion just to survive.

Some people foresee a Singularity when everyone is more deeply integrated with our information technology. My vision for a Singularity is grim, but ultimately as transformative. We’ll need universal information technology to manage coordinated effort and our negotiations of conflict. Can we rise to the challenge of reinventing ourselves before Earth becomes uninhabitable?

]]> By: patricia smith http://www.peacexpeace.org/2009/12/hope-is-a-gritty-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-280 patricia smith Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:43:27 +0000 http://www.peacexpeace.org/Peace_X_Peace_Blogs/?p=1485#comment-280 Thank you, Mares. Can you please tell me and our readers more about the planned march through Gaza? It is a mighty vision. patricia Thank you, Mares. Can you please tell me and our readers more about the planned march through Gaza? It is a mighty vision.

patricia

]]> By: Mares Hirchert http://www.peacexpeace.org/2009/12/hope-is-a-gritty-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-279 Mares Hirchert Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:34:06 +0000 http://www.peacexpeace.org/Peace_X_Peace_Blogs/?p=1485#comment-279 I loved your quoting Emily and then rewriting it your way about hope. My three grandchildren give me hope. We sat with them on Dec 13th and made Peace Flags to send to Gaza so that the Palestinian children there who suffered so terribly last winter might know that we care about them. We want the parents of the over 300 Palestinian children that died to know that we refuse to accept Palestinian children as "collateral damage" for Israeli Security. Our hope for a better future for their children and the children on the other side of the wall and for all the children around the world is strenghtened by the resolve of over 1000 Internationals from 42 Countries to march non-violently thru Gaza to lift the blockade. Our hopes and hearts are with them. I loved your quoting Emily and then rewriting it your way about hope. My three grandchildren give me hope. We sat with them on Dec 13th and made Peace Flags to send to Gaza so that the Palestinian children there who suffered so terribly last winter might know that we care about them. We want the parents of the over 300 Palestinian children that died to know that we refuse to accept Palestinian children as “collateral damage” for Israeli Security. Our hope for a better future for their children and the children on the other side of the wall and for all the children around the world is strenghtened by the resolve of over 1000 Internationals from 42 Countries to march non-violently thru Gaza to lift the blockade. Our hopes and hearts are with them.

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